Oh what's the big deal. So they want a degree that focuses on feminist theory, who cares? You think that theory is crap, but someone out there might think it's interesting. Just like someone might want a degree in Biblical Apologetics. That degree is looked at through the Biblical lens and probably not much else. And that's okay, because people getting that degree want to learn about Biblical theory. People getting a Gender Studies degree just have different intellectual interests than you. Why is that a problem? And so what if they can't define "woman", can you? :o)
Yes I can, and more importantly I can define all words in the degree programs I offer. And there is no Biblical apologetics degree at ASU. No one view should be privileged at a state university. You can study feminist theory but you can’t only teach it.
I'd love to hear your definition of 'woman', but maybe some other time. Of course there isn't a Biblical Apologetics degree at ASU, obviously. and of course no one view should be privileged. What would have to be present, what alternative (appropriate at a state university), for you to believe that it is fair to teach feminist theory?
You can teach about all views, you cannot privilege any view meaning in this instance today “we only use feminist theory”. People see this best when it is someone they disagree with: it would be like having a degree from the Christian perspective. You said obviously not for that and this is the same thing. Obviously not from just the feminist perspective.
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but while I get what you are saying about teaching many views, what I don't understand is what you want specifically to counter the feminist theory at a state university and if there is no counter does that mean we can't teach it? We've established that it won't be the Christian perspective because that is not taught at a state school, so then what? As someone who does not hold to feminist theory, I'm trying to find what I would study at ASU that would be counter to feminist theory. Philosophy, maybe? Sociology? Maybe I would just take all the Women's Study courses and fight with the instructors about their crazy views. I guess I'm just saying that while it's true that Gender Studies at ASU may be teaching a minority radical leftist viewpoint about women and gender, it doesn't mean that anyone has to take those classes and so I still don't see what the big deal is. Alas, we may agree to disagree.
Isn’t that in itself a fascinating point! You’re a well educated person who went through the state university and you never learned any other views that could be set in contrast to the feminist theory. Thats the problem I’m highlighting!
Hahaha! It could be argued that feminist theory is set against all of the mainstream views we've been taught about women and gender for decades, centuries, etc. and that they are simply pointing to an alternative way of looking at things outside the norm, the norm which is already accepted by most everyone around. So there is no need to "teach" a view counter to feminist theory, that view already pervades society. From this perspective, feminist theory is the outlier, not the dominant viewpoint. It is just another voice in the cacophony of ideas, hardly likely to take over the world anytime soon. Talk to Jo Shmo America and his wife about ultra feminist ideas and they would think you were crazy.
Oh what's the big deal. So they want a degree that focuses on feminist theory, who cares? You think that theory is crap, but someone out there might think it's interesting. Just like someone might want a degree in Biblical Apologetics. That degree is looked at through the Biblical lens and probably not much else. And that's okay, because people getting that degree want to learn about Biblical theory. People getting a Gender Studies degree just have different intellectual interests than you. Why is that a problem? And so what if they can't define "woman", can you? :o)
Yes I can, and more importantly I can define all words in the degree programs I offer. And there is no Biblical apologetics degree at ASU. No one view should be privileged at a state university. You can study feminist theory but you can’t only teach it.
I'd love to hear your definition of 'woman', but maybe some other time. Of course there isn't a Biblical Apologetics degree at ASU, obviously. and of course no one view should be privileged. What would have to be present, what alternative (appropriate at a state university), for you to believe that it is fair to teach feminist theory?
You can teach about all views, you cannot privilege any view meaning in this instance today “we only use feminist theory”. People see this best when it is someone they disagree with: it would be like having a degree from the Christian perspective. You said obviously not for that and this is the same thing. Obviously not from just the feminist perspective.
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but while I get what you are saying about teaching many views, what I don't understand is what you want specifically to counter the feminist theory at a state university and if there is no counter does that mean we can't teach it? We've established that it won't be the Christian perspective because that is not taught at a state school, so then what? As someone who does not hold to feminist theory, I'm trying to find what I would study at ASU that would be counter to feminist theory. Philosophy, maybe? Sociology? Maybe I would just take all the Women's Study courses and fight with the instructors about their crazy views. I guess I'm just saying that while it's true that Gender Studies at ASU may be teaching a minority radical leftist viewpoint about women and gender, it doesn't mean that anyone has to take those classes and so I still don't see what the big deal is. Alas, we may agree to disagree.
Isn’t that in itself a fascinating point! You’re a well educated person who went through the state university and you never learned any other views that could be set in contrast to the feminist theory. Thats the problem I’m highlighting!
Hahaha! It could be argued that feminist theory is set against all of the mainstream views we've been taught about women and gender for decades, centuries, etc. and that they are simply pointing to an alternative way of looking at things outside the norm, the norm which is already accepted by most everyone around. So there is no need to "teach" a view counter to feminist theory, that view already pervades society. From this perspective, feminist theory is the outlier, not the dominant viewpoint. It is just another voice in the cacophony of ideas, hardly likely to take over the world anytime soon. Talk to Jo Shmo America and his wife about ultra feminist ideas and they would think you were crazy.